Abi and Jess talk through the meaning of a pair of heels - yes really, a pair of shoes -  which was the initial starting point of their friendship.  They discover how, even for a simple piece of footwear, their individual stories and memories are quite different.  The map certainly is not the same territory as we discover listening to Abi’s account of the shoe shopping trip compared to Jess’ - how can a simple anecdote be so significant?  It demonstrates how this presupposition of NLP (one of the basic beliefs of Neuro Linguistic Programming) can be utilised and is just one way of changing your perspective of any situation.

Travelling through Zanzibar and Thailand, the two discuss how each of them makes decisions and the meaning behind their ‘modus operandi’, again, demonstrating how different people react and make choices according to their map of life.

As the pair talk, it’s hard not to play out your own story and your own way of doing things.  The podcast makes NLP accessible and gives listeners some practical ways of using the ideas for themselves and have more choice to live their best life.