In this episode, HE engages in an exchange of thoughts on mind over matter. The conversation between Fadzli Sharif and Refie Redzuan is about their take on the state of mind and how their aspirations in life keep them moving ahead and staying positive. The mindset is one of the most influential forces, moving either away or toward achieving goals and improving overall health by harnessing the power of the mind as the key to success and happiness. Exposing mental vulnerability is not a weakness but a strength, and knowing people who experience the same struggle will feel they are not alone.

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