Na rumi-ye rum, na zangi-ye zang which literally translates to "neither a Roman of Byzantium nor a Black person of the Subsaharan region",  means to say that some things cannot be black or white.  In this episode, Millie and Natalie discuss the struggles specific to the dual identity of being Persian and Jewish, diving deeper into the nuances of Sephardic Jewry, the stress of living for your ancestors and being the descendants of persecuted people, pressure to marry within your own religion for the sake of keeping your culture/ "people" alive, and not feeling 100% understood by secular Iranians nor Ashkenazy Jews.

Intro music: Dokhtar Ahvazi - Sandy

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