On this week's episode, Mike and Steve were joined by Dr. Nadia Mykytczuk, interim President and CEO of MIRARCO, a not-for-profit research arm of Laurentian University. During their conversation, they discussed Nadia's research in biomining, how she has adjusted to her new role as an executive, how applied research organizations such as MIRARCO and the Centre for Smart Mining can help mining companies innovate, and the lessons that the mining, oil and gas industries can take from Sudbury. They also talked about how, in the face of opposition and resistance to COVID-19 vaccination, science communication is more important now than ever before.