<p>Nal and Cal chat with "Vanderpump Rules" Guillermo Zapata, owner of SUR. Ever wondered how SUR and "Vanderpump Rules" got started? We have all the details. </p>

Nal and Cal chat with "Vanderpump Rules" Guillermo Zapata, owner of SUR. Ever wondered how SUR and "Vanderpump Rules" got started? We have all the details.

<p>Nal and Cal chat with "Vanderpump Rules" Guillermo Zapata, owner of SUR. Ever wondered how SUR and "Vanderpump Rules" got started? We have all the details.&nbsp;</p>

Nal & Cal with Guillermo Zapata

A podcast with two modern and opinionated moms from Dallas making it through life, one Bravo reality show at a time!

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