In this honest and deeply personal conversation, Josh Thomas and Pastor Chris Kouba talk about depression, emotional health, and why so many men struggle to admit when they are not okay. Pastor Chris shares his own story of trauma, burnout, fear, and the dark season that followed a life-altering injury, while also pointing listeners to the story of Elijah in 1 Kings 19.

Together, they explore how depression can show up through anxiety, irritability, overwork, isolation, and emotional numbness, and why men often hide it behind phrases like “I’m just tired,” “I’m just stressed,” or “I just need a vacation.” This episode offers biblical encouragement, practical insight, and a reminder that getting help is not weakness. It is wisdom.

To find out more about Pastor Chris, follow him on all the social platforms (@ckouba) and to connect with the ministry of United City visit https://unitedcity.church.


Show Notes
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Chapter Markers
00:00 Why men say “I’m good” when they’re not
03:07 Why guys struggle to name what they’re feeling
04:52 Pastor Chris shares his 2016 burn injury and dark season
12:28 Why men resist calling it depression
17:36 Elijah’s collapse after victory in 1 Kings 19
22:12 Physical, emotional, relational, and spiritual causes
36:22 Get help, say it out loud, and move toward healing