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This week Justin and I are talking about timelines in games (flashbacks and flash forwards) and out (campaign length, how to end games, etc).
Hosts: Sean Nittner and Justin Evans
Length: 28:26
[00:27] Intro to the show. Talking about timelines in game and out.[00:49] Telling stories about our characters.[01:50] One way to tell stories in game is to use flash backs or flash forwards[2:00] Justin pains me with a discussion of Lost[03:10] Talking about timelines on two levels.
Flashing back and flashing forward
[03:30] We display our ignorance to games who incorporate time manipulation in their games.[03:58] A LARP that flashed back and flashed forward throughout. They worked from the far future and past closer to the present.[06:15] This allows you to start on a very dramatic note. Starting with tension in the present by using Flashbacks to explain how you got there.[06:52] Flashbacks are very useful for fleshing out the backstory.[07:14] Starting with a normal scene and flashing back (or forward) to a very tense one.[08:06] Allows the group to ask a really specific question about the characters or the story.[08:52] Potential pitfall of a flashback: Plot immunity. Opportunity to create relationships or beliefs.[10:13] Flash forwards can tell us what scene we should be building towards. [11:28] Potential pitfalls of flash forward: Players working against the story you are presenting.[11:56] Something that you want to look to your group for buy in.
Structure of games
[13:02] Asking the question. How long to I want this game to run? How should it end?[13:29] An awkward Highlander reference.[14:22] Prime Time Adventures uses a 5 or 9 episode season. This works really well with the spotlight dynamic.[15:24] Some games don't pace the number of game sessions but they do work strongly towards and end game.[15:54] The Shadow of Yesterday: Transcendence – Your character is written out of the story.[16:35] Burning Wheel: Emotional Attributes force characters to leave the world in different ways.[17:39] Dust Devils uses harm to push towards "The End".[18:29] My Life with Master constantly pushes towards the end of the game (and consequently the end of the characters).[20:32] Creating a good end game… we don't want to let the fun end.[22:27] Taking away the sting of games ending. Talking about the game afterwards.[24:00] Building in time to debrief games at the end.[25:10] Most LARPS end with all the players sharing their plotlines with each other.[25:39] End long running games with a discussion of what the group will do next. Removes some of the fear of the "cool" part ending.[27:28] Ending this podcast with an assurance that there will be more cool ones to come, and you can remove the sting by coming to the forums.
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By Sean Nittner, Justin EvansThis week Justin and I are talking about timelines in games (flashbacks and flash forwards) and out (campaign length, how to end games, etc).
Hosts: Sean Nittner and Justin Evans
Length: 28:26
[00:27] Intro to the show. Talking about timelines in game and out.[00:49] Telling stories about our characters.[01:50] One way to tell stories in game is to use flash backs or flash forwards[2:00] Justin pains me with a discussion of Lost[03:10] Talking about timelines on two levels.
Flashing back and flashing forward
[03:30] We display our ignorance to games who incorporate time manipulation in their games.[03:58] A LARP that flashed back and flashed forward throughout. They worked from the far future and past closer to the present.[06:15] This allows you to start on a very dramatic note. Starting with tension in the present by using Flashbacks to explain how you got there.[06:52] Flashbacks are very useful for fleshing out the backstory.[07:14] Starting with a normal scene and flashing back (or forward) to a very tense one.[08:06] Allows the group to ask a really specific question about the characters or the story.[08:52] Potential pitfall of a flashback: Plot immunity. Opportunity to create relationships or beliefs.[10:13] Flash forwards can tell us what scene we should be building towards. [11:28] Potential pitfalls of flash forward: Players working against the story you are presenting.[11:56] Something that you want to look to your group for buy in.
Structure of games
[13:02] Asking the question. How long to I want this game to run? How should it end?[13:29] An awkward Highlander reference.[14:22] Prime Time Adventures uses a 5 or 9 episode season. This works really well with the spotlight dynamic.[15:24] Some games don't pace the number of game sessions but they do work strongly towards and end game.[15:54] The Shadow of Yesterday: Transcendence – Your character is written out of the story.[16:35] Burning Wheel: Emotional Attributes force characters to leave the world in different ways.[17:39] Dust Devils uses harm to push towards "The End".[18:29] My Life with Master constantly pushes towards the end of the game (and consequently the end of the characters).[20:32] Creating a good end game… we don't want to let the fun end.[22:27] Taking away the sting of games ending. Talking about the game afterwards.[24:00] Building in time to debrief games at the end.[25:10] Most LARPS end with all the players sharing their plotlines with each other.[25:39] End long running games with a discussion of what the group will do next. Removes some of the fear of the "cool" part ending.[27:28] Ending this podcast with an assurance that there will be more cool ones to come, and you can remove the sting by coming to the forums.
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