Designers who code are often described as unicorns. Mythical creatures, not of this world, capable of incredible feats. Natalya Shelburne is on a mission to change all of that. She says these so-called unicorns should be as commonplace as horses. Natalya knows a lot about sitting at the intersection of art and code, she’s the co-author of the Design Engineering Handbook, the senior manager of design infrastructure at GitHub and was previously senior software engineer at The New York Times. And in this episode, Natalya breaks down the misconceptions of the design engineer, gets to the root of making designer/developer collaboration work (hint: it’s about people), shares the value of design systems for better business outcomes and offers advice on carving out a career on the multidisciplinary path.