In this episode of the Framework podcast, Jamie and Ana interview Nathan Astle, who shares his story of accidentally becoming a financial therapist and the importance of having deep conversations about money. 

Nathan works with the Financial Therapy Clinical Institute, which uses a collaborative treatment team approach to help people experience money differently. He is optimistic about the future of the finance industry and the potential for positive change in the next 30 years. Along the way, the conversation includes some jokes and a discussion of emotions and behavior.

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