It was wonderful to get to meet Nathan Mattick on our show. Nathan can be seen on TikTok and it's there that we learnt that he is the UK's first wheelchair user to have qualified as a football referee. Listen to Nathan's inspiring story on our show this week.

In other news, we discuss player management and question whether the sinbin rule in the UK is a help or a hindrance. Has this detracted from how referees communicate with players or could this be seen as a deflection from the poor behaviour of some players.

We also discuss the term 'it's part of the game' and get a bit ranty!