Protecting the environment is hard, bureaucratic work. Tune in to this episode for the incredible story behind one of America's newest national monuments, Bears Ears National Monument, and the reason why it's not a national park. 

Our guest is Amy Irvine, public lands activist and author of several acclaimed works of environmental nonfiction. Her latest is Desert Cabal: A New Season in the Wilderness, which is a book-length response to Edward Abbey's seminal work Desert Solitaire: A Season in the Wilderness. 

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