Guest AJ Grotto is the William J. Perry International Security Fellow and founding director of the Program on Geopolitics, Technology and Governance at the Stanford Policy Center and Stanford University. Grotto has served in the National Cybersecurity Council under two successive presidents and brings decades of knowledge in international relations, policy and risk both to his students and to clients in his private sector consulting work. Grotto tells us about the current state of international cyber risk and response, gives his tips for students just getting started in international policy and why a suspicious-looking email took him away from the law profession and into the security space. 

0:00 - National security cyber issues
4:04 - How AJ Grotto got into cybersecurity
7:10 - Grotto's work in the National Security Council
10:25 - Skills used in the National Security Council
14:35 - Working at Sagewood 
17:00 - Global trends in cybersecurity
19:00 - Economies down; cyber crime up? 
20:17 - Cyber risk work at Stanford
23:10 - Cybersecurity students at Stanford
29:46 - How to take Grotto's class at Stanford
31:25 - Federal Zero Trust directives
34:49 - What to research for national security work
38:09 - Important global cybersecurity topics
40:06 - Learn more about Grotto, Stanford international policy
41:07 - Outro   

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