In this episode we're talking about Natural vs Spiritual.
Or, more precisely, we're talking about what it means to be natural minded vs being spiritual minded. 

Good verses to have on hand while listening:  
John 3: 1-12,  1 Cor. 3: 1-3,  1 Cor. 2: 12-16

Romans 12:1-3 (NASB)
Therefore I urge you, brethren, by the mercies of God, to present your bodies a living and holy sacrifice, acceptable to God, which is your spiritual service of worship. And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, so that you may prove what the will of God is, that which is good and acceptable and perfect.

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