Recorded May 2000.

"Matt Schmucker & I were about to interview Al in my study, and Phillip just walked in! He was in DC meeting w/ some folks on Capitol Hill. It was a happy, spontaneous conversation between friends. Phillip was a gracious, witty & learned law professor." — Mark Dever

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