Listen in on today’s co-facilitator Brad Weiner (@APETeacher) and guest speakers Jenn Vedder (@CoachVedder_HPE) and Danielle Musser (@Musser_APE) as they discuss the highly asked for topic of navigating APE deserts with little to no support or infrastructure. Specifically, we discuss what it’s like to come into a school as a new APE teacher and build up an APE program that lacks foundation, history, and resources. This podcast will touch upon many issues related to this subject and provide advice and strategies for APE educators. Brad Weiner helps to facilitate this important discussion given his extensive experience as an APE teacher. Brad has been on the podcast several times and is an educational specialists with Fairfax County in Virginia, as well as a former APE SHAPE teacher of the year with over 17 years experience as an APE teacher. We were also joined by two APE specialists who have successfully navigated APE deserts. Jenn Vedder is an APE and general education teacher from Virginia, currently working in North Carolina. She is also a Health & PE specialist at Charlotte-Mecklenburg Schools and an OPEN national trainer. Danielle Musser, graduate of Texas Women’s University, is an OSEP grant recipient and worked as an APE teacher in Colorado for several years and recently was able to successfully advocate for a new APE endorsement in her state.