"If we don't do the internal work, our movements will suffer." - Aarati Kasturirangan

This conversation is about expanding what's possible - even within conflict.

Mia is joined by Rebecca Subar (they/them) and Aarati Kasturirangan (she/her) from Dragonfly Partners to discuss how nonprofit organizations and movement leaders can navigate conflict from the inside-out.

Together we dive deep into why our individual and collective orientations to the work make a difference, when it's okay to walk away from conflict, and how to learn every step of the journey.

Plus, Rebecca eloquently shares their definitions of "power" and "strength" and Aarati (pronounced Arthi) explains why it's okay to be unsure about what to do in conflict.