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We all fail at gender, trans and cis folks. We don’t fit into the rigid boxes society has created for us because binary rules are flawed. And in this episode of Dem Bois Podcast, we dive into this concept. Today’s guest is Kai Marshall Green, and together we explore themes of identity, transformation, and gender. Kai shares personal experiences, including the significance of his name change and the challenges faced in navigating societal expectations. And, we highlight the importance of visibility for trans individuals and the connections between Black lesbian spaces and trans identity. 

We talk:

07:00 - Kai’s journey of identity and transformation

12:04 - Navigating gender expectations and advice

28:39 - Mental health and its complexities

38:40 - Writing a memoir

44:38 - Reflections on growth and healing

Episode References:

I'm Gonna Git You Sucka

All About the Benjamins

Friday 

Love Jones

The Princess and the Frog

Black Spaces: Reclaim & Remain: July 18, 2025—Sunday, March 1, 2026 at the Oakland Museum of California (OMCA)

Read more about Kai in his bio below:

K. Marshall Green is a shape-shifting Black Queer Feminist nerd; an Afro-Future, freedom-dreaming, rhyme slinging dragon slayer in search of a new world; a scholar, poet, facilitator, filmmaker; & an Assistant Professor of Africana Studies at The University of Delaware. He earned his Ph.D. from the Department of American Studies & Ethnicity w/ specializations in Gender Studies & Visual Anthropology at USC. His debut memoir, A Body Made Home: They Black Trans Love, is coming out 2/24/26 (The Feminist Press). 

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