How do we move carbon accounting from an administrative paperwork exercise to the literal balance sheets of global commerce? Host Alexia Kelly sits down with Greenhouse Gas Protocol CEO Tim Mohin to dissect the technical and institutional evolution required to make greenhouse gas data ready for Wall Street.

Mohin highlights the critical role of third-party assurance, detailing the massive effort to mature and align global emissions tracking systems. They also discuss the transition of emissions accounting from voluntary corporate public relations to hard financial regulation. He explains how the landmark partnership between the GHG Protocol and the International Standards Organization (ISO) will harmonize standards worldwide, paving the way for legally binding climate disclosures across seventy jurisdictions representing the vast majority of global GDP.

Featured Episode Quote:

"The ultimate goal here is to incorporate climate into our financial system so that we can flow capital to sustainable business practices. That's what investors want, that's what all the capital markets want, because climate change is real and it's here." — Tim Mohin

Key Discussion Points:

• The Push for Assurability: Why working with major audit firms at the front end of standard development ensures carbon data can withstand regulatory and legal scrutiny.
• Dismantling the Silos: Shifting environmental reporting away from a segregated corporate side-show and fully integrating it into mainstream financial reporting.
• Capital Allocation Dynamics: How reliable, comparable climate metrics empower institutional investors to fund sustainable portfolios on global markets.

In Focus: Developments in Climate Standards and Guidance

A special mini-series from Navigating Net Zero

Greenhouse gas accounting is changing rapidly. New standards are emerging, established frameworks are being revised, and organizations everywhere are trying to understand what these changes mean for climate action and investment.

In this special In Focus mini-series, host Alexia Kelly speaks with the leaders behind the world’s leading greenhouse gas accounting frameworks about the work they’re doing to shape the future of climate action. Together, they unpack the latest developments, explain how different standards fit together, and explore what's coming next.

Hear directly from leaders representing:
The Greenhouse Gas Protocol (GHGP)

• Carbon Measures
• The AIM Platform
• The Task Force for Corporate Action Transparency (TCAT)
• The Integrity Council for the Voluntary Carbon Market (ICVCM)
• And more

Whether you're a sustainability professional, climate strategist, ESG leader, or simply trying to understand where greenhouse gas accounting is heading, this mini-series will help you better understand the standards that underpin credible climate action.

In Focus: Developments in Climate Standards and Guidance is a special mini-series from Navigating Net Zero—the podcast exploring what's working, what's not, and what's next in the global transition to net zero.

Episode 1 launches on July 21st 2026

After a year of conversations with the people shaping climate action, Navigating Net Zero’s host Alexia Kelly steps back to reflect on what she's learned.

This isn't a collection of Season One highlights. It's a thoughtful exploration of the ideas that surfaced again and again across thirteen remarkable conversations: why climate action is ultimately about people before policy; why today's accounting rules are struggling to keep pace with tomorrow's ambition; why markets, trust and transparency remain essential to scaling solutions; why meaningful progress depends on engaging across political, corporate and ideological divides; and why taking care of ourselves may be just as important as our work.

Throughout its first season, Navigating Net Zero has looked beyond headlines and net zero pledges to examine where real decisions are made—in boardrooms, supply chains, finance teams and communities. In this closing episode, Alexia draws those conversations together into something more enduring: a field guide for navigating complexity with curiosity, humility and hope.

As the first season comes to a close, Alexia reflects on why, despite the scale of the challenge, she remains optimistic—not because the road ahead is easy, but because of the extraordinary people committed to walking it.

Host Alexia Kelly sits down with Richard Lawrence, founder of Overlook Investments Group and co-founder of multiple climate-focused organizations, to discuss carbon markets, climate philanthropy, and what has driven his work in both over the decades. Richard shares how a medical mission to Honduras transformed into a 20-year journey of installing more than 400,000 fuel-efficient cookstoves and how high-integrity carbon finance makes it possible.

Key Topics Discussed:

• The Origin of Proyecto Mirador: How an 11-year-old girl identified a public health crisis that led to a massive climate solution.
• Continuous Improvement: Why technical innovation—like a simple $1 ash wiper—is the key to project durability.
• The "Top of the Pyramid": Comparing high-performance investment portfolios to high-integrity carbon projects.
• The Future of the Market: The role of transparency, the ICVCM, and transitioning from "voluntary" to "verified" carbon markets.
• Tripling Down on Climate Philanthropy: Why the ultra-wealthy need to increase their payout ratios to address the climate crisis.

Let’s be honest—climate messaging isn’t landing the way it needs to.

In this episode, Alexia Kelly is joined by Kalee Kreider, one of the world’s leading climate communicators, to talk about why… and what we can do about it.

From working with Al Gore on An Inconvenient Truth to advising global organizations, Kalee has spent decades figuring out what actually connects with people—and what completely misses the mark.

They dive into:

• Why your climate message probably isn’t reaching the people you think it is
• The danger of “smart-sounding” language (and how to simplify without dumbing down)
• How methane went from overlooked to a “climate moment”
• Why people need hope + solutions—not just data
• The surprising real reason An Inconvenient Truth resonated
• How TikTok, LinkedIn, and AI are changing the game
• Why even experts need communication training

Plus, Kalee shares her top 3 tips for becoming a better climate communicator—no matter your role.

If you work in or are passionate about climate, this episode is a must-listen.

Alexia Kelly interviews Dr. Lea Borkenhagen, SVP at Environmental Defense Fund, about her career spanning economics, NGOs and corporate sustainability. Dr. Borkenhagen traces her path from studying orangutans in Borneo to exploring how markets shape resource use, then working with WWF and earning a PhD before joining Oxfam to help launch the Roundtable on Sustainable Palm Oil. They discuss Dr. Borkenhagen’s experience at Nike, and what it really takes to “win hearts and minds” as a sustainability professional. 

Dr. Borkenhagen’s work at EDF focuses on sustainability as a driver of business value—and she shares her expert perspective on how emerging topics like CBAM, climate impacts on supply chains, innovation, methane action, and more are reasons for hope in corporate climate progress, despite political headwind.

In this episode of Navigating Net Zero, host Alexia Kelly is joined by Tisha Schuller, founder of Adamantine Energy and strategic advisor to Stanford's Natural Gas Initiative. She’s the author of four books: Accidentally Adamant (2018); The Game Changers Playbook: How Oil and Gas Leaders Thrive in an Era of Continuous Disruption (2020); Real Decarbonization: How Oil and Gas Companies Are Seizing the Low-Carbon Future; and The Myth in the Moment: From Polarization to Progress in the New Energy Landscape.

Tisha shares her journey from environmental activism to environmental leadership in the oil and gas industry, emphasizing the importance of collaboration and pragmatism in achieving net zero. They discuss the challenges of the energy transition, the polarized climate debate, and the crucial role oil and gas companies are playing and should continue to play in reducing global carbon intensity. Tisha outlines the need for engagement, innovation, and incrementalism, urging the climate community to work constructively with the oil and gas sector. This dialogue highlights the complexities and opportunities in driving forward a sustainable energy future.

In this episode of Navigating Net Zero, Alexia Kelly speaks with Dr. Britt Wray, a leading voice on climate resilience and mental health, about the emotional challenges associated with the climate crisis. Dr. Wray, author of 'Generation Dread' and director at Stanford University’s CIRCLE initiative, shares her journey and work in addressing climate anxiety. They discuss the significance of acknowledging and processing climate grief and its role in driving purposeful action. Various supportive resources, including the Good Grief Network, are highlighted for those seeking community and coping mechanisms. The conversation also touches on the integration of emotional and technical approaches in the climate movement, especially in balancing professional and personal spheres. Tune in for an engaging discussion on navigating the emotional landscape of the climate crisis and the importance of mental resilience.

In this special review episode of Navigating Net Zero, host Alexia Kelly reflects on her conversations with leading climate action and sustainability experts in 2025. With eight episodes featuring influential leaders from companies like Salesforce, Meta, Microsoft, Mars, Target, Oatly, and more, the podcast dove into critical issues such as internal change management, carbon accounting standards, market-based mechanisms, and the need for intellectual flexibility in tackling climate change.

Key themes include the importance of engaging hearts and minds for deep decarbonization, the financial and logistical challenges of new technologies, and the role of corporate influence in driving systemic change. This episode underscores the urgency of climate action, the need for collective impact, and a focus on progress over perfection.

In this episode of Navigating Net Zero, host Alexia Kelly is joined by Holly Lahd to discuss the intersection of carbon accounting and energy strategy. Holly shares her experiences working on the Greenhouse Gas Protocol's Scope 3 standard, her transition to corporate decarbonization efforts, and insights on regulated and wholesale energy markets. The discussion covers the evolution of electricity markets, the complexities of corporate climate strategies, and the challenges of Scope 3 emissions. Holly emphasizes the importance of large-scale renewable energy projects and the crucial role of corporate purchasing in driving decarbonization. 

The episode examines the interaction between financial structuring, market dynamics, and the need for both attributional and consequential accounting practices in corporate climate action. Tune in to explore how companies can navigate the transitional period of ambiguous guidelines and make impactful decisions.