In this episode of Creating Greatness Tony and I host Christian author, husband, father & churchman Alex Kocman. We hop right into it with " are spiritual gifts real?". We move on to navigating politics and religion. We end the show talking about virtue signaling and how to love with discernment.

to get Alex's book "Ordered to Love" go to: https://orderedtolove.com/

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