Ben talks with Zac about how he came up with crest designs for North Carolina’s 79ish biggest towns. They also talked about his time as the commissioner of the First Flight League, and what it’s like to support soccer all all different kinds of levels!

Club designs for your local North Carolina town: https://medium.com/amateursoccernc

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