The Indypendent's John Tarleton and Amba Guerguerian interview Neelu Shruti, a birth justice advocate, midwifery student, the founder of Love Child and the author of ‘Black mothers Matter’ for The Indypendent. They talk about Black mothers and midwives and how New York State can begin to reverse longstanding racist policies and practices that have allowed the medical industry to maximize profits off of childbirth while doing great harm.