Mike and Andre are joined by Neil Piper from the Soot and Whitewash Podcast!  We discuss him pursuing a master of arts degree in photography and why he started his podcast.  Andre talks of his experiments with the Android version of Abe Fettig's Film Lab App, and also shooting with his Minolta Riva panoramic camera.  Neil talks about contact printing with cyanotypes and his visit to the Photography Show for an analog meetup in the UK.  Mike talks of shooting a Pentax point and shoot using flash in bulb mode, gets APS film and vintage Ektachrome from Lori Brooks, selling prints to Melissa Meader, and becomes the professor of rock and roll shows.  Next, we ask Neil questions from the Negative Positives Podcast Facebook group.  Finally, we discuss pinhole photography with kids, making time for photography with busy lives, digital negatives, and whether the UK has a more close knit film photography community!