The August round table discussion!  Andre and Mike welcome Dustin Cogsdell of the Grainy Dayz Podcast (IG fortheloveofgrain, grainy_dayz_podcast) and Matt Melcher of the Box of Cameras Podcast (IG mattmelcher, box_of_cameras) and Jiminy Cricket.  Topics include whether it is okay to hate things in the film community, what if the film industry fails, shooting dead formats, photography as a healing process, and the stigma of shooting in Auto mode on cameras.