We recorded this episode in Ray's cellar having just recorded the ninth episode. We provide a bit of background which explains who we are, how we met and what we're interested in. Our plan is to have this sort of conversation every 10th episode or so.

We cover the ideas that:

• successful lives are lived with a foot in each the known and the unknown
• if you want different results, you have to do something different 
• the stories of others are what helps us focus
• beliefs have no value without action
• the bigger the comfort zone, the better
• growing one's comfort zone is a necessarily uncomfortable process   
• the best journeys are a shared experience 

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