In this episode, Nate and Mike enjoy the Nest Blackbird Cigar Company Connecticut Toro while diving deep into the controversial and tangled world of healthcare in America. They discuss the murder of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson, the company's practices of denying claims, whistleblower allegations, shareholder lawsuits, and the broader systemic issues in for-profit health insurance. Alongside candid debates about work personas, socialized insurance, and modern healthcare challenges, they reflect on personal experiences and the moral implications of profiting from sickness and death. Plus, they wrap up with their impressions of the cigar and a note about the upcoming trial. Tune in for an unfiltered conversation blending cigars, beer, and hard-hitting healthcare realities.

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