You can count on Nate and Joshua to tackle the hard questions like: How tall is the average American male and what's scarier than a network leviathan. Trafenia Flynn Salzman, a Cloud Security Architect for the federal government, drops by to give her thoughts on how network security is affected by using cloud systems. 

In this episode, we talk about Zero Trust, network security, cloud security, MFA, access control lists, SaaS, PaaS, IaaS, Anonymous, and a few network security threats.