Karl Ulrich describes Dan Goldin as “thinking in galactic terms,” and that’s exactly what makes their conversation so deeply fascinating.

Dan ran NASA for 10 years. He's worked on innovative and disruptive projects so big picture that we now take them totally for granted, like direct broadcast TV.

You want to know what an innovator sounds like? Listen to this interview, for an intriguing glimpse inside the mind of a person who has literally spent a lifetime pushing the boundaries of the possible.

And to hear about what he thinks is possible now: highly scalable neural computing.