Puny Mortal Podcast

Neurodivergence and Death


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Intro

In this episode, we talk about our experience of the intersection between neurodivergence, death and funerals. Be warned though, this episode gets heavy in places. Heavier than we expected. For this reason, we've marked this episode as containing 'explicit' content - but not because of any bad swears (we've saved those for the next episode - true story).

Oh, and we recorded this episode before LV invested in a proper good mic. Picture her, for Episode 2, wearing a teeny tiny microphone attached to the wire of her (probably free) earphones, like some Y2K business guy, pre-bluetooth era. Thus, I blame the slight jingly-jangly sounds when LV is speaking on this offensively cheap mic. I promise these sounds are banished in all future episodes. Thanks to expensive new mic.

We may record a follow-up episode in a future season of PUNY MORTAL as we only managed to scratch the surface here.

Summary

We initially talk about being late-diagnosed neurodivergent people and how this intersects with our experiences of death and funerals (both pre-diagnosis and post-diagnosis). But it gets rather heavy when we talk about our dad’s active dying in his last couple of weeks in February 2022. So maybe skip to the end if you want to hear the lighter content, such as the weird minister at our granddad’s funeral, and our uncontrollable funeral giggling (i.e. later at the same funeral. But also at the funerals of other family and friends. FFS).

As always, we end the episode by sharing with you some of our own funeral wishes. In Episode 2 we talk about our choice of physical send-off and choice of ceremony type. We're sharing our funeral wishes in the hope that it'll encourage you to do your own planning. You can order your own GET MORTAL funeral planning zine from our website.

By the way, if you’re neurodivergent like us, we’d LOVE to hear from you about your experiences of funerals and grief. Does any of this resonate? Or are the Vigurs sisters the only weirdos in the corner?


Links and points of clarification

  • As undiagnosed neurodivergent children our mum was always having to write notes to teachers to give them a heads-up on our quirks.
  • We both had a lot of time off secondary school. LV due to physical symptoms. KV due to overwhelm and needing quiet time.
  • Emetophobia is the very real fear of vomit and vomiting.  
  • Wings Picasso's Last Words (Drink to Me) - Dad schooled us on the back catalogue of Wings in his last two weeks.
  • There are loads of dawn choruses on YouTube.
  • When we were giggling and egging each other on in the back of Dad's bright yellow Citroen CX, he would wearily say "Face the windows, girls" to stop us looking at each other.
  • We mention helpful books on dying by Dr Kathryn Mannix. Her TED Talk is a good starting point.
  • Check out Becky Ellis's @neuro_divers account on IG. There are some great infographic posts on autism and grief.

  • Chapters

    01:08-05:50 Our personal experiences of neurodivergence

    05:51-11:48 The intersection of our dad's death and our neurodivergence

    11:49-24:50 The last two weeks of Dad's life

    24:51-29:20 Funerals and neurodivergence

    29:21-32:10 Our Granddad's funeral & inappropriate laughing

    32:11-32:47 Tell us about your neurospicy funeral experiences

    32:48-39:10 Get Mortal funeral planning chat: our choices of physical send-off and choice of ceremony type

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