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Our first episode we cover the heavy topic of suicide, and how it unexpectedly laid the foundation for our relationship. Join us as we go through our personal experiences and brief research on some of the mechanisms involved. We also reflect on the grief and complexity of losing someone to suicide, and how our own struggles shifted after that loss.
We touch on:
Our personal experiences with suicidal thoughts and attempts
How childhood trauma, emotional neglect, and loneliness shaped our inner worlds
The neuroscience behind suicidal ideation and mood disorders like borderline personality disorder (BPD) and depression
The role of brain chemistry, trauma, and executive dysfunction in mental health
How safety plans, support systems, and compassionate conversations can reduce suicide risk
The stigma surrounding suicide and how we can better support each other through it
Join us as we experience the full range of emotions; from laughing about our origins, to crying, to intellectual discussion and our attempt to find meaning in a topic near and dear to our lives. This episode isn’t just about mental health struggles; it's about survival, understanding, connection, and healing.
💬 Whether you're someone who has battled these feelings yourself, know someone who has, or are simply ready for a real and raw conversation about mental health, this episode is a safe space for reflection and hope.
🧾 References: Also provided in the show notes
Gvion, Y., Levi-Belz, Y., Hadlaczky, G., & Apter, A. (2015). On the role of impulsivity and decision-making in suicidal behavior. World Journal of Psychiatry, 5(3), 255. https://doi.org/10.5498/wjp.v5.i3.255
Keilp, J. G., Sackeim, H. A., Brodsky, B. S., Oquendo, M. A., Malone, K. M., & Mann, J. J. (2001). Neuropsychological Dysfunction in Depressed Suicide Attempters. American Journal of Psychiatry, 158(5), 735–741. https://doi.org/10.1176/appi.ajp.158.5.735
Kernberg, O. (2009). The concept of the death drive: A clinical perspective. The International Journal of Psychoanalysis, 90(5), 1009–1023. https://doi.org/10.1111/j.1745-8315.2009.00187.x
Kirsch, M., Dimitrijevic, A., & Buchholz, M. B. (2022). “Death drive” scientifically reconsidered: Not a drive but a collection of trauma-induced auto-addictive diseases. Frontiers in Psychology, 13. https://doi.org/10.3389/fpsyg.2022.941328
Klonsky, E. D., May, A. M., & Saffer, B. Y. (2016). Suicide, Suicide Attempts, and Suicidal Ideation. Annual Review of Clinical Psychology, 12(1), 307–330. https://doi.org/10.1146/annurev-clinpsy-021815-093204
LeGris, J., & van Reekum, R. (2006). The Neuropsychological Correlates of Borderline Personality Disorder and Suicidal Behaviour. The Canadian Journal of Psychiatry, 51(3), 131–142. https://doi.org/10.1177/070674370605100303
Ling, Z., Qing, T., & Chunming, X. (2024). Epigenetic insight into the suicidal biomarker of depression with suicide Ideation: A narrative review. Neuroscience, 560, 48–55. https://doi.org/10.1016/j.neuroscience.2024.09.029
Mann, J. J., & Rizk, M. M. (2020). A Brain-Centric Model of Suicidal Behavior. The American Journal of Psychiatry, 177(10), 902–916. https://doi.org/10.1176/appi.ajp.2020.20081224
Orsolini, L., Latini, R., Pompili, M., Serafini, G., Volpe, U., Vellante, F., Fornaro, M., Valchera, A., Tomasetti, C., Fraticelli, S., Alessandrini, M., La Rovere, R., Trotta, S., Martinotti, G., Di Giannantonio, M., & De Berardis, D. (2020). Understanding the Complex of Suicide in Depression: from Research to Clinics. Psychiatry Investigation, 17(3). https://doi.org/10.30773/pi.2019.0171
PMC, E. (2020). Europe PMC. Europepmc.org. https://europepmc.org/article/nbk/nbk565877
Whiteley, C. (2023). Suicide Psychology. Cgd Publishing. https://books.google.com/books?hl=en&lr=&id=fWOjEAAAQBAJ&oi=fnd&pg=PT38&dq=suicide+and+neuropsychology&ots=xZiwF05erl&sig=-52ytsnjyg3-qG9sDZxLgPzYNAE#v=onepage&q&f=false
🧠 Trigger Warning: This episode contains open and honest discussions around suicidal ideation, suicide attempts, trauma, and mental illness. Listener discretion is advised.
Keywords:
By Katrina Bras and Madeline RoseOur first episode we cover the heavy topic of suicide, and how it unexpectedly laid the foundation for our relationship. Join us as we go through our personal experiences and brief research on some of the mechanisms involved. We also reflect on the grief and complexity of losing someone to suicide, and how our own struggles shifted after that loss.
We touch on:
Our personal experiences with suicidal thoughts and attempts
How childhood trauma, emotional neglect, and loneliness shaped our inner worlds
The neuroscience behind suicidal ideation and mood disorders like borderline personality disorder (BPD) and depression
The role of brain chemistry, trauma, and executive dysfunction in mental health
How safety plans, support systems, and compassionate conversations can reduce suicide risk
The stigma surrounding suicide and how we can better support each other through it
Join us as we experience the full range of emotions; from laughing about our origins, to crying, to intellectual discussion and our attempt to find meaning in a topic near and dear to our lives. This episode isn’t just about mental health struggles; it's about survival, understanding, connection, and healing.
💬 Whether you're someone who has battled these feelings yourself, know someone who has, or are simply ready for a real and raw conversation about mental health, this episode is a safe space for reflection and hope.
🧾 References: Also provided in the show notes
Gvion, Y., Levi-Belz, Y., Hadlaczky, G., & Apter, A. (2015). On the role of impulsivity and decision-making in suicidal behavior. World Journal of Psychiatry, 5(3), 255. https://doi.org/10.5498/wjp.v5.i3.255
Keilp, J. G., Sackeim, H. A., Brodsky, B. S., Oquendo, M. A., Malone, K. M., & Mann, J. J. (2001). Neuropsychological Dysfunction in Depressed Suicide Attempters. American Journal of Psychiatry, 158(5), 735–741. https://doi.org/10.1176/appi.ajp.158.5.735
Kernberg, O. (2009). The concept of the death drive: A clinical perspective. The International Journal of Psychoanalysis, 90(5), 1009–1023. https://doi.org/10.1111/j.1745-8315.2009.00187.x
Kirsch, M., Dimitrijevic, A., & Buchholz, M. B. (2022). “Death drive” scientifically reconsidered: Not a drive but a collection of trauma-induced auto-addictive diseases. Frontiers in Psychology, 13. https://doi.org/10.3389/fpsyg.2022.941328
Klonsky, E. D., May, A. M., & Saffer, B. Y. (2016). Suicide, Suicide Attempts, and Suicidal Ideation. Annual Review of Clinical Psychology, 12(1), 307–330. https://doi.org/10.1146/annurev-clinpsy-021815-093204
LeGris, J., & van Reekum, R. (2006). The Neuropsychological Correlates of Borderline Personality Disorder and Suicidal Behaviour. The Canadian Journal of Psychiatry, 51(3), 131–142. https://doi.org/10.1177/070674370605100303
Ling, Z., Qing, T., & Chunming, X. (2024). Epigenetic insight into the suicidal biomarker of depression with suicide Ideation: A narrative review. Neuroscience, 560, 48–55. https://doi.org/10.1016/j.neuroscience.2024.09.029
Mann, J. J., & Rizk, M. M. (2020). A Brain-Centric Model of Suicidal Behavior. The American Journal of Psychiatry, 177(10), 902–916. https://doi.org/10.1176/appi.ajp.2020.20081224
Orsolini, L., Latini, R., Pompili, M., Serafini, G., Volpe, U., Vellante, F., Fornaro, M., Valchera, A., Tomasetti, C., Fraticelli, S., Alessandrini, M., La Rovere, R., Trotta, S., Martinotti, G., Di Giannantonio, M., & De Berardis, D. (2020). Understanding the Complex of Suicide in Depression: from Research to Clinics. Psychiatry Investigation, 17(3). https://doi.org/10.30773/pi.2019.0171
PMC, E. (2020). Europe PMC. Europepmc.org. https://europepmc.org/article/nbk/nbk565877
Whiteley, C. (2023). Suicide Psychology. Cgd Publishing. https://books.google.com/books?hl=en&lr=&id=fWOjEAAAQBAJ&oi=fnd&pg=PT38&dq=suicide+and+neuropsychology&ots=xZiwF05erl&sig=-52ytsnjyg3-qG9sDZxLgPzYNAE#v=onepage&q&f=false
🧠 Trigger Warning: This episode contains open and honest discussions around suicidal ideation, suicide attempts, trauma, and mental illness. Listener discretion is advised.
Keywords: