After Brad Stansfield's column in The Mercury calling for Labor to dump leader Rebecca White Brad Nowland and Becher Townshend want to know what he thinks the opposition leader should be doing. Given the disastrous position the party is in is it possible for Labor to win power in 2022? Becher also says Stansfield should "never say never" when it comes to working for the Labor party himself. After some intense and sometimes loud discussion, they are joined by The Australian's Matt Denholm to talk COVID and the media's performance through the pandemic.

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