A thoughtful, sober conversation on grief, faith, and leadership in American Politics. Alan Smith and Jeff Rowland reflect on Erica Kirk’s public remarks after the assassination of Charlie Kirk, then discuss reports that she has been named CEO of Turning Point USA. The hosts consider what this means for the movement, the role of faith in public life, and how courage forms conviction. The episode closes with a call to pray for Erica, her family, and the Turning Point USA community.

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