This bubbly conversation traces the outlines of security work going beyond the raw code and into the nitty gritty of social webs and structural design.

Cade Diehm walks us through the collapse of the third wave of decentralization, and the realizations along the way. He also introduces the frameworks of EXCILIC and ANXIETY which are at the core of the studio ParaReal’s work.

To read more of the works of cade, see the New Design Congress page and find articles such as the essay we talk in depth about in this episode “This is Fine: Optimism and Emergency in the P2P network “