Zoltan Istvan is a Transhumanist, an author, a former National Geographic photographer and the current 2020 VP candidate for the Libertarian party.

Our conversation starts with his unique take on a Universal Basic Income and the right to self-experimentation including biohacking. We then discuss treating death and aging as a disease and the necessary turn toward global cooperation.

We reflect on coronavirus's likely attitude outcomes, our dated institutions and politicians that don't comprehend technology or its impact.

The conversation concludes with Zoltan's parents' escape from Communist Hungary and his new image of a Libertarian party divorced from Jerry Springer antics.

Read Upgrading America for more context regarding Zoltan's views on the evolution of 21st century humanity.

*Sorry for the abrupt start—signal and recording issues were on my end.