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[NEW] Lessons from Combat and Aviation with Mike Brown and Julian Gluck: How to Manage Yourself Through the COVID-19 Coronavirus Crisis, Grief, Deepening Gratitude
“A lot of the awful things happening out there aren’t our fault, and we can be compassionate with ourselves around that, and still make decisions and learn from our mistakes.” –Mike Brown
Welcome to the Conscious Creators Show; where through intimate and insightful interviews with authors, actors, musicians, entrepreneurs and other podcasters, you'll learn tools and tactics to 10x your creativity and strategies to grow and monetize your audience.
Mike Brown is an entrepreneur, investor and guerrilla philosopher. Prior to founding, operating and exiting an 8-figure oil and gas company, Mike flew F/A-18 Super Hornets for the Navy and brings the fighter pilot spirit to entrepreneurship. When he isn’t dreaming up his next business or telling Navy stories, you can usually find him riding mountain bikes in the foothills of Golden, CO.
Julian Gluck grew up in LaGrange, Georgia and became a bomber pilot after graduating from the United States Air Force Academy. He was selected as the 2018 Air Force Times Airman of the Year for his community and combat service. Julian is active in international non-profit leadership, public speaking, and was recently honored on the 2020 Forbes 30 Under 30 for Law & Policy. He is on Instagram at @JulianRGluck and LinkedIn.
On today’s episode of the Conscious Creators podcast, host Sachit Gupta speaks with his friends Mike Brown and Julian Gluck about the current COVID-19 global pandemic. Learn about strategies and lessons they learned in the Navy and Air Force to help you manage the current situation, from dealing with grief and trauma to taking action in moments of crisis.
Actions:
- Subscribe to the show on Apple Podcasts or on your favorite podcast app and let us know what you think by leaving a rating and a review.
- Thank our guest and let them know what you thought of today’s episode — find Mike on Facebook and Julian on Instagram!
- Head on over to Creators.Show to get new episodes, exclusive guides like our guide on “How to Connect With Busy Influencers”, partner deals and additional bonuses
Episode Highlights:
- Mike became involved with an organization called Haymakers for Hope that does amateur boxing fight nights to raise money to fight cancer.
- Julian was raised to value giving back to his community and be involved with philanthropy.
- As an investor, Mike believes that humans are essentially bad at evaluating risk because they tend to have an opinion and then look for data to back up their opinion, rather than looking at objective data sets and using that data to form their opinion.
- There are no downsides to enacting procedures to save lives when the alternative is the pandemic situation we’re now in due to lack of preparedness.
- Being able to social distance is a privilege.
- We can’t predict how we’re doing overall as a country because we don’t have enough data, but anecdotal evidence suggests we are at risk of ending up exactly where Italy was with hospitals having to choose who receives care.
- Decision-making models can be useful to guide you, but you should try to avoid being a slave to them.
- A useful framework is the OODA Loop: observe, orient, decide, and act.
- Once you come up with a plan, don’t become attached to the plan.
- Even after we get past this health crisis, there will be a continuing economic crisis.
- As a pilot, you follow an emergency protocol to maintain aircraft control, analyze the situation, take proper action, and land as soon as conditions permit. This involves the mantra of Aviate, Navigate, and Communicate.
- Panicking will always make the situation worse, especially when you have the luxury of time to evaluate data, make an informed decision, and execute the plan.
- Meditation is a cornerstone of how Mike has constructed his life.
- It’s a misconception that meditation is about the absence of thought; instead, you can reliably predict that you will have thoughts while meditating, but you learn to observe and honor your thoughts and emotions without being trapped by them and reacting impulsively to them.
- In response to this crisis, people who are finding the silver lining of humanity experiencing a reset or finding the ability to engage in self-improvement right now, need to balance that optimism with compassion for those of us who are experiencing unthinkable loss and struggle.
- How do you balance feeling like you could have done more in a situation with having compassion for yourself?
- Self-compassion will be crucial for each of us to get through this crisis.
- We are all going to be dealing with grief as COVID-19 unfolds, and the military and our society are notoriously bad at addressing and handling grief.
- People tend to engage in comparative trauma instead of allowing themselves to feel what they feel and honor the grief that they feel.
- Mike recommends practicing “radical gratitude,” which begins with being present.
3 Key Takeaways:
- It is best to make decisions and take action based on data, not reactionary emotion.
- Compassion for yourself and others during times of crisis is absolutely essential.
- We as a society are bad at dealing with death and grief.
Tweetable Quotes:
“I loved being a part of the boxing classes and all of the unarmed combat courses. I think there’s so many lessons that you can apply from within the ring or in a wrestling match that you can take to the outside world.” –Julian Gluck
“It’s really bizarre to me that so many people seem to say, well, let me sit back and see what the government tells me to do here. We all have functioning intellect. We can look at the situation and go, wait a minute, what’s best for my family?” –Mike Brown
“Your net worth is not your self-worth.” –Mike Brown
“A lot of the awful things happening out there aren’t our fault, and we can be compassionate with ourselves around that, and still make decisions and learn from our mistakes.” –Mike Brown
“The important part is to focus on root causes that have instructional fixes for how we can ameliorate or prevent that in the future with a better solution.” –Julian Gluck
Actions:
- Subscribe to the show on Apple Podcasts or on your favorite podcast app and let us know what you think by leaving a rating and a review.
- Thank our guest and let them know what you thought of today’s episode — find Mike on Facebook and Julian on Instagram!
- Head on over to Creators.Show to get new episodes, exclusive guides like our guide on “How to Connect With Busy Influencers”, partner deals and additional bonuses.
Resources Mentioned:
- Conscious Creators Podcast website
- Mike Brown’s Website
- Mike Brown’s Facebook
- Julian Gluck’s Website
- Julian Gluck’s Instagram
- Forbes profile of Julian
- Haymakers for Hope
- OODA Loop
- Waking Up with Sam Harris meditation app
- The Book of Five Rings by Miyamoto Musashi
- The Operational Mindset Foundation
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“A lot of the awful things happening out there aren’t our fault, and we can be compassionate with ourselves around that, and still make decisions and learn from our mistakes.” –Mike Brown
Welcome to the Conscious Creators Show; where through intimate and insightful interviews with authors, actors, musicians, entrepreneurs and other podcasters, you'll learn tools and tactics to 10x your creativity and strategies to grow and monetize your audience.
Mike Brown is an entrepreneur, investor and guerrilla philosopher. Prior to founding, operating and exiting an 8-figure oil and gas company, Mike flew F/A-18 Super Hornets for the Navy and brings the fighter pilot spirit to entrepreneurship. When he isn’t dreaming up his next business or telling Navy stories, you can usually find him riding mountain bikes in the foothills of Golden, CO.
Julian Gluck grew up in LaGrange, Georgia and became a bomber pilot after graduating from the United States Air Force Academy. He was selected as the 2018 Air Force Times Airman of the Year for his community and combat service. Julian is active in international non-profit leadership, public speaking, and was recently honored on the 2020 Forbes 30 Under 30 for Law & Policy. He is on Instagram at @JulianRGluck and LinkedIn.
On today’s episode of the Conscious Creators podcast, host Sachit Gupta speaks with his friends Mike Brown and Julian Gluck about the current COVID-19 global pandemic. Learn about strategies and lessons they learned in the Navy and Air Force to help you manage the current situation, from dealing with grief and trauma to taking action in moments of crisis.
Actions:
- Subscribe to the show on Apple Podcasts or on your favorite podcast app and let us know what you think by leaving a rating and a review.
- Thank our guest and let them know what you thought of today’s episode — find Mike on Facebook and Julian on Instagram!
- Head on over to Creators.Show to get new episodes, exclusive guides like our guide on “How to Connect With Busy Influencers”, partner deals and additional bonuses
Episode Highlights:
- Mike became involved with an organization called Haymakers for Hope that does amateur boxing fight nights to raise money to fight cancer.
- Julian was raised to value giving back to his community and be involved with philanthropy.
- As an investor, Mike believes that humans are essentially bad at evaluating risk because they tend to have an opinion and then look for data to back up their opinion, rather than looking at objective data sets and using that data to form their opinion.
- There are no downsides to enacting procedures to save lives when the alternative is the pandemic situation we’re now in due to lack of preparedness.
- Being able to social distance is a privilege.
- We can’t predict how we’re doing overall as a country because we don’t have enough data, but anecdotal evidence suggests we are at risk of ending up exactly where Italy was with hospitals having to choose who receives care.
- Decision-making models can be useful to guide you, but you should try to avoid being a slave to them.
- A useful framework is the OODA Loop: observe, orient, decide, and act.
- Once you come up with a plan, don’t become attached to the plan.
- Even after we get past this health crisis, there will be a continuing economic crisis.
- As a pilot, you follow an emergency protocol to maintain aircraft control, analyze the situation, take proper action, and land as soon as conditions permit. This involves the mantra of Aviate, Navigate, and Communicate.
- Panicking will always make the situation worse, especially when you have the luxury of time to evaluate data, make an informed decision, and execute the plan.
- Meditation is a cornerstone of how Mike has constructed his life.
- It’s a misconception that meditation is about the absence of thought; instead, you can reliably predict that you will have thoughts while meditating, but you learn to observe and honor your thoughts and emotions without being trapped by them and reacting impulsively to them.
- In response to this crisis, people who are finding the silver lining of humanity experiencing a reset or finding the ability to engage in self-improvement right now, need to balance that optimism with compassion for those of us who are experiencing unthinkable loss and struggle.
- How do you balance feeling like you could have done more in a situation with having compassion for yourself?
- Self-compassion will be crucial for each of us to get through this crisis.
- We are all going to be dealing with grief as COVID-19 unfolds, and the military and our society are notoriously bad at addressing and handling grief.
- People tend to engage in comparative trauma instead of allowing themselves to feel what they feel and honor the grief that they feel.
- Mike recommends practicing “radical gratitude,” which begins with being present.
3 Key Takeaways:
- It is best to make decisions and take action based on data, not reactionary emotion.
- Compassion for yourself and others during times of crisis is absolutely essential.
- We as a society are bad at dealing with death and grief.
Tweetable Quotes:
“I loved being a part of the boxing classes and all of the unarmed combat courses. I think there’s so many lessons that you can apply from within the ring or in a wrestling match that you can take to the outside world.” –Julian Gluck
“It’s really bizarre to me that so many people seem to say, well, let me sit back and see what the government tells me to do here. We all have functioning intellect. We can look at the situation and go, wait a minute, what’s best for my family?” –Mike Brown
“Your net worth is not your self-worth.” –Mike Brown
“A lot of the awful things happening out there aren’t our fault, and we can be compassionate with ourselves around that, and still make decisions and learn from our mistakes.” –Mike Brown
“The important part is to focus on root causes that have instructional fixes for how we can ameliorate or prevent that in the future with a better solution.” –Julian Gluck
Actions:
- Subscribe to the show on Apple Podcasts or on your favorite podcast app and let us know what you think by leaving a rating and a review.
- Thank our guest and let them know what you thought of today’s episode — find Mike on Facebook and Julian on Instagram!
- Head on over to Creators.Show to get new episodes, exclusive guides like our guide on “How to Connect With Busy Influencers”, partner deals and additional bonuses.
Resources Mentioned:
- Conscious Creators Podcast website
- Mike Brown’s Website
- Mike Brown’s Facebook
- Julian Gluck’s Website
- Julian Gluck’s Instagram
- Forbes profile of Julian
- Haymakers for Hope
- OODA Loop
- Waking Up with Sam Harris meditation app
- The Book of Five Rings by Miyamoto Musashi
- The Operational Mindset Foundation