Jack joins me for a grounded, funny, and real conversation about acting, creative vulnerability, and the shifting industry in Birmingham. We talk stage cringe, class in the arts, shitting in superhero suits, and why “just be normal” might be the best creative advice you’ll ever hear — plus what connection really means in a chaotic world.Support the show & fuel future episodes:☕ https://ko-fi.com/wagwarnabelHighlights:– Vomiting mango smoothies on Holby City– Is drama school worth it?– BBC moving to Digbeth: hope or gentrification?– Working class stories and who gets to tell them– The true meaning of connectionNew episodes every Thursday. Subscribe and stay locked in.#WagwarnAbel #CreativeUprising #DramaSchool #BirminghamArts #JustBeNormal