Adene Sacks and Kate Wilkinson (along with Heather McLeod Grant) are co-authors of the report The New Normal: Capacity Building During a Time of Disruption. The report "takes a closer look at the impact of the 2016 U.S. election and its aftermath on the social sector. "

Adene and Kate join host Steve Boland to talk about capacity building (and defining external capacity in movements), the responsibility of philanthropy in our changed times, defining a process of change rather than a specific outcome, and much more! The conversation also mentions another Open/Impact report, The Giving Code, which was the topic of a previous Next in Nonprofits podcast interview.