There’s more than one way to get to the hybrid cloud. And most companies follow several paths to get to what is increasingly becoming the “new normal” for IT infrastructure.

That’s the essential message behind this informative conversation with Lee Atchison, New Relic’s Principal Cloud Architect and Advocate.

Plus: The Modern Software Podcast team discusses the surprise ending of the privacy/security fight between Apple/FBI, recent cloud milestones, and the passing of Andy Grove.