In this episode, we're joined by Ebony Magazine Power 100 honoree, Aspen Ideas Festival Scholar, and criminal justice advocate Marlon Peterson to discuss the challenges of retaining your humanity while incarcerated, whether or not mass incarceration should be abolished, and how we as a community failed Kalief Browder. Additionally, we discover the origin of Alex's asshole ways, Procter & Gamble just might get a plate at the cookout, and Jay provides a candid update on his physical and emotional well-being.

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