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... Jane Forby Hoyt was on the vessel with her husband Fred. Jane had lived on Chestnut Street in Amsterdam when she was growing up, the daughter of Frank and Emmeline Forby.
The ship that sank 110 years ago
By Bob Cudmore, Focus on History
The Amsterdam Recorder had a solid local angle when the Titanic hit an iceberg and sank in the North Atlantic.
Monday, April 15, 1912 the newspaper reported, “There was much local interest aroused today in the mishap to the Titanic through the fact that an Amsterdam girl was numbered among the first class passengers.”
Jane Forby Hoyt was on the vessel with her husband Fred. Jane had lived on Chestnut Street in Amsterdam when she was growing up, the daughter of Frank and Emmeline Forby.
A stenographer, Jane married Fred Hoyt, a partner in a New York lace importing firm who was a yachtsman. The Hoyts were returning on the Titanic’s maiden voyage after touring Europe and Egypt.
Jane was put on one of the last lifeboats. Donning a life vest Fred went to a lower deck and jumped into the water. He grabbed a piece of wreckage to stay afloat.
The crew of the lifeboat Jane was in pulled Fred from the water and the two were reunited. Several hours later, the Cunard liner Carpathia picked up their lifeboat.
Jane lived until age 55. Fred died at age 67. They had no children.
Longtime reporter and public relations official Bryan Jackson has written a new book called “Why The Titanic Was Doomed.”
According to Jackson, another Capital District survivor was Gilbert Tucker of Albany who had been traveling with his family in Europe.
Jackson said, “The interesting thing is he was very embarrassed by the fact that he survived the sinking when so many others had perished. And I did interview a guy who knew him and he said you were never to mention Titanic in front of (Tucker). He was very sensitive about it.”
Jackson has been interested in the Titanic, the most magnificent ocean liner of her time, since he was a child. He said the ship was destined for disaster before leaving the docks at Southampton because of mistakes made by her owner, designers and by the men who sailed her.
My grandfather Harry Cudmore had come to Amsterdam from England to work as a silk weaver at Fownes, an Amsterdam glove mill, in 1911. His eldest son came with him.
Family legend has it that Harry’s wife Elizabeth and four of her children, including my father, were to come to America on the Titanic. But grandmother dallied so long that they missed the doomed ship in April 1912. They made an uneventful crossing later that year on a ship named the Majestic.
A New York City area woman who survived the sinking of the Titanic, Marie Grice Young, died in 1959 at what was then Mount Loretto Nursing Home on Swart Hill Road in the Town of Amsterdam at age 83.
A native of Washington, D.C., Young was well connected, having given music lessons to President Theodore Roosevelt’s daughter Ethel. She was rescued on one of the first lifeboats to leave the Titanic.
After the disaster Young felt compelled to write to President William Howard Taft to deny a published report that she had conversed with Presidential aide Archibald Butt as the disaster unfolded. Butt, who died with the ship, was military attaché to both Presidents Roosevelt and Taft.
Butt supposedly asked Young to “remember (him) to all the folks back home."
Young wrote, “The alleged interview is entirely an invention.”
She added, “When I last saw Major Butt, he was walking on deck, with Mr. Clarence Moore, on Sunday afternoon.”
Young was living in New York City when she entered Mount Loretto. One relative listed in her obituary was a great niece in Loudonville.
Sunday, April 3, 2022-From the Archives-Episode 79, September 27, 2015-Bob Cudmore with stories from Focus on History in Daily Gazette: creation of Great Sacandaga Lake, dogs named for a lawmaker, clergymen on bicycles, Hugh Donlon’s 1940 history, baseball player George Burns’s Gloversville roots and more.
The Historians April Schedule
Friday, April 8, 2022 Episode 417-Bryan Jackson is author of Why the Titanic Was Doomed. Titanic, the most magnificent ocean liner of her time, was destined for disaster before she left the docks at Southampton according to Jackson--doomed by her owner, designers and the men who sailed her.
Friday, April 15, 2022 Episode 418-Bruce Dearstyne is encouraging New Yorkers to celebrate April 20 as the birthday of the Empire State. The first New York State constitution was adopted April 20, 1777 during a momentous year for the state during the Revolutionary War. Dearstyne was formerly on the staff of the Office of State History and the State Archives. He has written books and articles on New York history.
Friday, April 22, 2022-Episode 419-Edmund Richardson is author of The King’s Shadow: Obsession, Betrayal, and the Deadly Quest for the Lost City of Alexandria, the story of a deserter who discovered a civilization founded by Alexander the Great in Afghanistan in the fourth century B.C.
Friday, April 29, 2022-Episode 420-Paul Craddock at UCL Medical School in London England is author of Spare Parts: The Story of Medicine Through the History of Transplant Surgery.
Mohawk Valley Weekend Weather and News Headlines
Saturday, April 2, 2022
Sunny, with a high near 49. West wind 13 to 16 mph, with gusts as high as 26 mph.
Tonight
Increasing clouds, with a low around 31. West wind 5 to 7 mph becoming calm in the evening.
Sunday
A chance of snow before 9am, then a chance of rain and snow between 9am and 10am, then rain likely after 10am. Cloudy, with a high near 43. Calm wind becoming east around 6 mph. Chance of precipitation is 60%. Little or no snow accumulation expected.
Daily Gazette
https://dailygazette.com/
Amsterdam Recorder
https://www.recordernews.com/
Leader Herald
https://www.leaderherald.com/
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By Bob Cudmore
... Jane Forby Hoyt was on the vessel with her husband Fred. Jane had lived on Chestnut Street in Amsterdam when she was growing up, the daughter of Frank and Emmeline Forby.
The ship that sank 110 years ago
By Bob Cudmore, Focus on History
The Amsterdam Recorder had a solid local angle when the Titanic hit an iceberg and sank in the North Atlantic.
Monday, April 15, 1912 the newspaper reported, “There was much local interest aroused today in the mishap to the Titanic through the fact that an Amsterdam girl was numbered among the first class passengers.”
Jane Forby Hoyt was on the vessel with her husband Fred. Jane had lived on Chestnut Street in Amsterdam when she was growing up, the daughter of Frank and Emmeline Forby.
A stenographer, Jane married Fred Hoyt, a partner in a New York lace importing firm who was a yachtsman. The Hoyts were returning on the Titanic’s maiden voyage after touring Europe and Egypt.
Jane was put on one of the last lifeboats. Donning a life vest Fred went to a lower deck and jumped into the water. He grabbed a piece of wreckage to stay afloat.
The crew of the lifeboat Jane was in pulled Fred from the water and the two were reunited. Several hours later, the Cunard liner Carpathia picked up their lifeboat.
Jane lived until age 55. Fred died at age 67. They had no children.
Longtime reporter and public relations official Bryan Jackson has written a new book called “Why The Titanic Was Doomed.”
According to Jackson, another Capital District survivor was Gilbert Tucker of Albany who had been traveling with his family in Europe.
Jackson said, “The interesting thing is he was very embarrassed by the fact that he survived the sinking when so many others had perished. And I did interview a guy who knew him and he said you were never to mention Titanic in front of (Tucker). He was very sensitive about it.”
Jackson has been interested in the Titanic, the most magnificent ocean liner of her time, since he was a child. He said the ship was destined for disaster before leaving the docks at Southampton because of mistakes made by her owner, designers and by the men who sailed her.
My grandfather Harry Cudmore had come to Amsterdam from England to work as a silk weaver at Fownes, an Amsterdam glove mill, in 1911. His eldest son came with him.
Family legend has it that Harry’s wife Elizabeth and four of her children, including my father, were to come to America on the Titanic. But grandmother dallied so long that they missed the doomed ship in April 1912. They made an uneventful crossing later that year on a ship named the Majestic.
A New York City area woman who survived the sinking of the Titanic, Marie Grice Young, died in 1959 at what was then Mount Loretto Nursing Home on Swart Hill Road in the Town of Amsterdam at age 83.
A native of Washington, D.C., Young was well connected, having given music lessons to President Theodore Roosevelt’s daughter Ethel. She was rescued on one of the first lifeboats to leave the Titanic.
After the disaster Young felt compelled to write to President William Howard Taft to deny a published report that she had conversed with Presidential aide Archibald Butt as the disaster unfolded. Butt, who died with the ship, was military attaché to both Presidents Roosevelt and Taft.
Butt supposedly asked Young to “remember (him) to all the folks back home."
Young wrote, “The alleged interview is entirely an invention.”
She added, “When I last saw Major Butt, he was walking on deck, with Mr. Clarence Moore, on Sunday afternoon.”
Young was living in New York City when she entered Mount Loretto. One relative listed in her obituary was a great niece in Loudonville.
Sunday, April 3, 2022-From the Archives-Episode 79, September 27, 2015-Bob Cudmore with stories from Focus on History in Daily Gazette: creation of Great Sacandaga Lake, dogs named for a lawmaker, clergymen on bicycles, Hugh Donlon’s 1940 history, baseball player George Burns’s Gloversville roots and more.
The Historians April Schedule
Friday, April 8, 2022 Episode 417-Bryan Jackson is author of Why the Titanic Was Doomed. Titanic, the most magnificent ocean liner of her time, was destined for disaster before she left the docks at Southampton according to Jackson--doomed by her owner, designers and the men who sailed her.
Friday, April 15, 2022 Episode 418-Bruce Dearstyne is encouraging New Yorkers to celebrate April 20 as the birthday of the Empire State. The first New York State constitution was adopted April 20, 1777 during a momentous year for the state during the Revolutionary War. Dearstyne was formerly on the staff of the Office of State History and the State Archives. He has written books and articles on New York history.
Friday, April 22, 2022-Episode 419-Edmund Richardson is author of The King’s Shadow: Obsession, Betrayal, and the Deadly Quest for the Lost City of Alexandria, the story of a deserter who discovered a civilization founded by Alexander the Great in Afghanistan in the fourth century B.C.
Friday, April 29, 2022-Episode 420-Paul Craddock at UCL Medical School in London England is author of Spare Parts: The Story of Medicine Through the History of Transplant Surgery.
Mohawk Valley Weekend Weather and News Headlines
Saturday, April 2, 2022
Sunny, with a high near 49. West wind 13 to 16 mph, with gusts as high as 26 mph.
Tonight
Increasing clouds, with a low around 31. West wind 5 to 7 mph becoming calm in the evening.
Sunday
A chance of snow before 9am, then a chance of rain and snow between 9am and 10am, then rain likely after 10am. Cloudy, with a high near 43. Calm wind becoming east around 6 mph. Chance of precipitation is 60%. Little or no snow accumulation expected.
Daily Gazette
https://dailygazette.com/
Amsterdam Recorder
https://www.recordernews.com/
Leader Herald
https://www.leaderherald.com/
Historians RSS Feed
Keep up to date
https://bobcudmore.com/feed/podcast.rss