In this episode of Our Hero De Niro, the Mikes take on New York, New York, Martin Scorsese's bold attempt to blend gritty postwar realism with old-Hollywood musical style. They dig into De Niro's performance as the charming but infuriating saxophonist Jimmy Doyle, the film's uneasy tone, and whether the visual grandeur justifies the runtime. Plus: Liza Minelli discourse, Scorsese's attitude during production, and whether or not the Mikes are jazz men.

Wikipedia page for New York, New York. Films recommended this episode:

• After Hours
• Inside Llewyn Davis

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