"It's incredibly hard to run a good law firm."

In this episode of Real Ambition, host Iolanthe Gabrie speaks with Ben Deverson, founder and director of Lawganised and director of The Kind Lawyers, about the unique expertise that non-lawyers can offer to law firms. Ben shares insights from his extensive experience providing professional services to the legal industry, emphasizing the importance of empathy, workplace culture, and client-centric approaches in law firms. Iolanthe and Ben discuss the value of relationships, growing and learning in business, and the evolving landscape of legal consultancy.

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