The podcast begins as Joel and Brian talk NBA off-season and Joel must rescind his GSW championship pick. Who should the pro back now that Golden State is unlikely to win it all?  What is the outlook and odds on the Celtics, Lakers, Bucks, Clippers, Sixers and others? Will Philly be his pick and could they actually get James Harden?

Then it's NFL Week-12 talk and reactions to Week-11. What did we just learn about every team and how can we apply that knowledge to the betting lines for this week? There's a ton to unpack with 3 Thanksgiving games (2 that matter) and a full Sunday slate coming up. Plus, NFL "FOMO" report, early picks and stay away games.

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