in this episode of "This Makes No Cents," Kaleb and Chris discuss their new podcast setup before diving into deep conversation about the old music from the 2010 era. They expressed their beliefs that the music from back then was much better than current music, and they explore the ideas of how music can evoke emotions in listeners and take them on a journey. They also discuss the shift in modern music towards artists expressing themselves rather than creating a experience for the listener. While touching briefly on the topic of, Snoop Dog and Ryan Reynolds.

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