NICD Chat - A dialogue between former NICD Executive Director (now Emerita) Carolyn Lukensmeyer and former White House Chief of Staff Thomas F. McLarty III. They speak about their shared time in the White House during the Clinton administration and the importance of working together, a sentiment McLarty wrote about in an op-ed called "The Case to Stop Campaigning and Start Governing."

You can read about McLarty's speech at George Washington University referenced in the podcast here.