Stephen Grootes is one of South Africa's most respected journalists. In a career spanning two decades, Stephen has become synonymous with using his voice to hold authority to account. From Drive and Breakfast at 702, writing for Daily Maverick and hosting SAFM Sunrise, Stephen is one of the most well known names in the country. Stephen and I have known each other since 2018, when we first sat down in a similar setting to the one he joins me in, in this episode. I had the opportunity to explore his mind and delve deep into some of the more complicated topics that captivate the minds of South Africans.