Graham talks to Moonpig founder Nick Jenkins, about his time in the greeting card business, what it's like to be a dragon on BBC Two's Dragons' Den and knowing when to politely say "no" to new opportunities.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmbnlnHe5nc

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