Fort Collins, CO. Nick Marx is a Media Studies professor at Colorado State University, my brother-in-law, the person who introduced me to leftism, and the author of the new book "That's Not Funny: How the Right Makes Comedy Work for Them."

We talk about Nick’s new book, political media, Bill Maher and Pod Save America, South Park, the power of labor organizing, Austin: from Richard Linklater to Joe Rogan, right wing comedy, University of Austin, academia, Cornel West, David Foster Wallace, Marc Maron, and working out.

For the final 6 minutes, I walk you through a segment of Beethoven’s 9th and talk about my experience seeing it live in concert last night here in Austin. I end up rambling on about some sort of line being drawn throughout history from Beethoven to Kubrick to Swartzwelder to Chapo.