About a year ago, we interviewed Courtney Condy - the founder of a business called Occupation Wild. Fast forward a year later, and we're closing the loop with Nick Watts, the new VP.

Nick graduated from college and decided to never opt-in. His positive attitude and adventurous approach to life have taken him all over the world - from boat hitchhiking, to Surfing at Cloudbreak in Fiji. This fun, fast-paced story where Jacques Cousteau meets Indiana Jones will enlighten fellow opt-outers as well as anyone trying to escape the 9 to 5 grind. More at optoutlife.com/podcast/nick-watts/