TW's managing editor Neva Talladen speaks with Nicki Pappas, a writer and podcaster whose self-published memoir, As Familiar as Family, delves into the abusive events that led her to leave a church with which she had been intimately involved. Nicki also hosts Broadening the Narrative, a podcast dedicated to exploring themes, ideas, and ways of being that exist outside the white evangelicalism in which she was raised. Neva and Nicki discuss the book, religion, and self-publishing.