Like any good journey, this conversation is a bit scattered. Nick Martin and I have been friends for years now, and one of my favorite things about our friendship is our ability to talk about anything and still be hanging on each other’s every word. In this episode, we get into everything from the Boy Scouts, theater, movies, criticism, science, religion, expertise, and why we don’t claim to follow one philosophy. The content of this episode continues to keep the ball rolling with the theme of the last couple, revolving around our thoughts and feelings about the world around us. Stay tuned for the end to hear “Messed Up” by K.A.M., a soulful and inspiring ballad about letting go of the past and finding a way to move forward.

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